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the French are BIGOTS!!
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'nuff said
2004-01-19 02:32:08 UTC
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The above article was in my newspaper this morning. Nice, conspicuous
location on the back of the front page. Does France intend to go back to
the Inquisition? What is Chirac thinking? You can practice religion, just
go to America to do it.
waggg
2004-01-19 09:38:38 UTC
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
file=/chronicle/archive/2004/01/18/MNGCP4CJUT1.DTL
The above article was in my newspaper this morning. Nice, conspicuous
location on the back of the front page. Does France intend to go back to
the Inquisition? What is Chirac thinking? You can practice religion, just
go to America to do it.
LOL ! You don't understand "laicité", right? :-)

everyone can practice religion in France ... but if you want more
islamists, it's with a great joy that we give them you all !

We don't have to change the rules (existing from 1905) in our society
to please north african newcomers, prat ...
Now try tyo learn more about "laïcité" then come back to discuss it.
Krankor
2004-01-19 11:49:33 UTC
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Post by waggg
LOL ! You don't understand "laicité", right? :-)
Yes he does, it's just that it's ok if it's home and it's unforgivable if
it is done by foreigners.

You see 7000 people went against that law project... Over a population of
55 million French. So if 7,000 people can't win against 55,000,000 then
it's not democracy. Oh wait... It is!
Post by waggg
everyone can practice religion in France ... but if you want more
islamists, it's with a great joy that we give them you all !
They are being treated fair and square in the US. Ahem... sorta. Well..
we can't tell you the names of the people we detain and interrogate, so
don't ask, they don't exist.
Post by waggg
We don't have to change the rules (existing from 1905) in our society to
please north african newcomers, prat ... Now try tyo learn more about
"laïcité" then come back to discuss it.
Once again, it's called separation of church and state and it's %100
american too. Heck, Montesquieu, Thomas Jefferson... same ideals, same
origin.
Jeremy
2004-01-19 17:52:06 UTC
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Post by Krankor
Once again, it's called separation of church and state and it's %100
american too. Heck, Montesquieu, Thomas Jefferson... same ideals, same
origin.
I beg to differ. Someone else had the same idea, and he wasn't American.

Luke 20:24-25
"Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it?" They answered
and said, Caesar's.
And he said unto them. "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be
Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's."
Krankor
2004-01-19 19:02:26 UTC
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Post by Jeremy
I beg to differ. Someone else had the same idea, and he wasn't American.
Luke 20:24-25
"Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it?" They answered
and said, Caesar's.
And he said unto them. "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be
Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's."
Nice find!

So there is a case of giving back to the state what belongs to education
and public administration (heck we even still use the roman legal code:
civil law) and giving the religious to the church even in the bible itself.
waggg
2004-01-20 11:55:15 UTC
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Post by Krankor
You see 7000 people went against that law project... Over a population of
55 million French. So if 7,000 people can't win against 55,000,000 then
it's not democracy. Oh wait... It is!
LOL :-)
Krankor
2004-01-19 11:08:27 UTC
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Post by 'nuff said
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
file=/chronicle/archive/2004/01/18/MNGCP4CJUT1.DTL
The above article was in my newspaper this morning. Nice, conspicuous
location on the back of the front page. Does France intend to go back to
the Inquisition? What is Chirac thinking? You can practice religion, just
go to America to do it.
Bigots means to be religious to the extreme... So when a governement and
it's populace are pushing separation of church and state, it's not called
bigotry.

For a better understanding of the concept of separation of church and
state, please check google for "Supreme Court Decision" this will list
what the US supreme court does for a living. Mostly enforcing separation
of Church and State by removing religious symbols from public buildings.

Both the US of A and France work on the same systems, although Common Law
is the system used in the USA while Civil Law is the one used in France.
But the issues are the same.

So in short, parading in the USA so that France stops it's separation of
church and state doctrine would be like Krutchev asking people to parade
in Moscow so that communism be stopped world wide.


If you are an American, I urge you to read the basic documents that can be
found on the subject of "separation of church and state"

Here are some names and references. You should be able to recognize at
least one or two names.

James Madison
James Wilson
Rufus King
Elbridge Gerry
Edmund Randolph
Charles Pinckney
George Mason
Alexander Hamilton
Gouverneur Morris
John Rutledge
Caleb Strong
George Read
John Marshall
John Vining
Ben Franklin
Fisher Ames
James Monroe
James McHenry
Thomas Jefferson
Samuel Adams
Patrick Henry
John Q. Adams
John Adams
Oliver Ellsworth
Ben Rush
John Jay
John Randolph
Joseph Story
Henry Lee
John Hancock
John Witherspoon
Noah Webster
Averhn blast
2004-01-22 18:19:40 UTC
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Post by 'nuff said
The above article was in my newspaper this morning. Nice, conspicuous
location on the back of the front page. Does France intend to go back to
the Inquisition? What is Chirac thinking? You can practice religion, just
go to America to do it.
C'est sur mais nous on a pas besoin de marquer In god we trust pour
s'affirmer Chretien.
Vous savez que cela condamne toute autre forme de pensée et de devellopement
religieux? Pas étonnant que vous ayez le continent qui contient le plus de
secte.
Pourquoi pas marquer In connerie we trust plutot? c'est plus d'actuallité
Just 'cause I don't know to write that in english, use your translator
Oh have you ever heard about a guy called Michael MOORE?
Yes? So if you can read that it means that you can read his books (oh my god
you're gonna to be intelligent! don't panic it's great.
Ah yes don't read it with only one eye open, you need to think about what
Michael says, it's should make you react about you "so beautiful country"
Razalghel, so frenchy!

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